The Realignment: Eric Weinstein Returns, Plus, Realignments in Tech, Media, and Education
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This week, we aired two episodes: Eric Weinstein, host of The Portal podcast and managing director at Thiel Capital; and Erik Torenberg, co-founder and partner at Village Global, host of the Venture Stories podcast, and founder of On Deck.
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Ep. 90: Erik Torenberg on Realignments in Tech, Media, and Education
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Ep. 89: Eric Weinstein, Reckoning with Capitol Chaos and How to Save America
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Brandon writes:
Wanted to pass some interesting bits regarding the capitol riots.Â
Sam Kriss has a pretty good take on the whole thing here. It's rambles at parts, but that's Sam. Thought I'd pass it on.Â
https://samkriss.com/2021/01/07/the-old-golden-savages-killed-their-philosophers/
Also, this survey made its way around the Quilette-Intellectual Dark Web sphere of twitter the other day. http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/PBS-NewsHour_Marist-Poll_USA-NOS-and-Tables_202101081001.pdf#page=3
Page 8 is particularly interesting. 7% of whites supported the storming, and 11% of POC, despite the confederate flags, and the vaguely to explicitly stated racism present. I read this as here we see the perpetual underclass of POC from the dead places (e.g. ghettos, southern towns long ago broken) seeing people from other dead places (e.g. flyover states, rural America) doing something they've probably always wanted to do themselves. I have a tentative substack article I'd like to post of my thoughts (mostly for my own catharsis), but the general summary of it is the following:
The capitol storming was the anger of those from the dead places finally boiling over. It was expressed in a way so incoherent and stupid you can't really understand it unless you're in their new Qanon reality yourself, but at it's core was economic anger. The production of this anger would begin mostly in the neoliberal third way era which stripped their now dead places of both their jobs and the factories which provided them. We're seeing people mad at the loss of these places, their dignity, and their importance. The media's been quick to point out that there were a fair amount of rich people in the crowd, trying to frame this as decoupled from economics, but you don't need to be poor yourself to be angry by proxy; and the trip itself necessitated resources. Further still, the media also betrays its own narrative here by gleefully listing the life stories of many of those arrested: drug addicts, 40 year old's living at home, never had a job, multiple run-ins with the law, and many failed lives. The message from the media is clear, "they're losers, liberals please laugh!" To those of us not lying to ourselves we see the people Trump tapped into, the forgotten ones, with a lot of anger, never the vision to see the causes, but easily co-opted by anybody willing to speak to them. Prime recruits for a despot. Indeed this anger, again economic at the root, has been co-opted, by a GOP in the 2000s which sold them it was immigrants that took their way of life, or by the Tea Party in the early 2010s which sold them it was big-government that took their way of life. This anger is now largely independent of the economic conditions which fostered it initially, as few can remember the times before. Now it's chaotic, moving from topic to topic with daily Q posts. It's resembles a Lovecraftian monster twisted together with white identity politics, boomer Fox News "those darn minorities" politics, global conspiracies about pedophiles, and so much more.Â
Classically, liberals are looking to explain the situation in relation to race, the only framework they have anymore. I'll argue for another: it's the economics stupid! These structures which extracted the wealth and dignity from these people are still there (many, yes, created by politicians on their side), and are only bolstering the anger and creating new recruits daily. While we should arrest and try those involved, we also need to strongly consider the economic issues at play here. To me, any analysis which neglects this will find only solutions that will at worst accelerate the situation, and at best commit us to yet another cryptic forever war.Update:
Things are always in flux right now, so an update point:The margin of error on that poll is like 4-5%, so interesting trends, but premature to make any inferences I think.Â
Also as an explanation for where my summary is coming from, it's basically what I got out of books like Listen Liberal, What's A Matter With Kansas, Deaths of Despair, and Strangers in Their Own Land. So it leans hard on the economic side of things.
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pps ... i am arguing that non-elite white men benefit more in Status & Power from identifying as & voting Republican than they do as Democrats ...
... i guess, thus, i am arguing that the migration of non-elite white men, increasingly, is more explained by Endogenous [Psychological] than Exogenous [e.g., Anti-African-American] factors ... maybe the previous statement applies, as well, to Hispanic, Black, & Asian men, also ...
... i think it remains to be determined quantitatively the extent to which White Supremacy is a Main Effect and to what extent other factors [especially, Economics, Status, Power] explain the effects of WS ...
p.s. ... this morning i was thinking about frequent claims that the non-elite members of Trump's base are acting against their own interests-- particularly, their Economic interests... i was also thinking about the common assertions that members of T's non-elite base are "stupid" or duped... i thought about the distinction made in the Social Sciences between Status [how others perceive you] and Power [access to resources]-- T's non-elites, historically, have Status, ab initio (& formerly, de jure) because they are white and because of "heritage" factors [e.g., their sons are responsible for going to war and for winning them-- including, the Revolutionary War; they, historically, built America (MAGA)]; most members of T's non-elite & elite base are white, so it is in the interest of both groups to become allies-- to preserve their Status... the sons of the non-elite who have won our wars gain a lot of Status from Trump's elite supporters [but, probably, not from many minorities, especially, African-Americans]... thus, i would say that it is logical, rational, even, obvious for Trump's non-elite followers to align with him his elite followers, and, by extension, the Republican Party... Trump's elite followers, obviously, face the imminent loss of a [slow?] erosion of their Power... T elites & T non-elites are "natural" bedfellows...
... the same logic might apply to T's elite & non-elite minority followers [increasingly, Hispanics, African-American men, Asians] if their Status &/or Power is threatened [mostly, Status, i would guess-- maybe these groups have negligible Power?]...
... i would propose that the only Status AfAmericans have is via association with & support from Liberal Whites with whom they have had a co-dependent, paternalistic relationship with since Slavery... probably Bi-racial & light-skinned AfAmericans have enhanced Status-- at least in some spaces [see Stuart Hall UK on differential rules as a function of different social spaces]...
... the Status-Power analysis can, also, be applied to women whose Status, in great part, comes from their historically co-dependent, paternalistic, relationship to men... probably, on balance, women have little Power...
... pretty much all of these ideas can be estimated & modeled quantitatively to explore & forecast possible causes, correlates, functions, & outcomes... [in addition, note Exchange Theory, Optimality Theory, Game Theory, "arms race" literature in Ecology & Military Science]...